Course Setup - Feb 12-13

Jonathan Lugod · Post by **Jonathan Lugod** » Sun Jan 23, 2011 3:36 pm

I need course setup workers for this next event in February. I am allowed to exempt (3) from their worker assignment for the practice. Looks like we are going to try and go for an early Friday setup at approx. 1PM. Further details will be discussed via email or PM. Please contact me at jonlugod@gmail.com (760) 716 2927

Jonathan Lugod · Post by **Jonathan Lugod** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 4:00 pm

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Theo O. · Post by **Theo O.** » Mon Jan 24, 2011 7:26 pm

Remove the "experienced" and you'll get volunteers. I want to volunteer but right now I'm thinking you are going to beat me with a big piece of chalking dry wall if I don't know the proper spacing between slalom cones

Sebastian Rios · Post by **Sebastian Rios** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:15 am

25 pace slalom out, 25 pace slalom up the hill, 25 pace slalom along the top, 25 pace slalom through the finish...Done!

Steve Ekstrand · Post by **Steve Ekstrand** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 9:24 am

Theo could do it.... But I'm not sure about Frank or Al. Or Zapp.

..25 pace slalom aka "Civie Straightaway"...

KJ Christopher · Post by **KJ Christopher** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 11:49 am

Sebastian Rios wrote:25 pace slalom out, 25 pace slalom up the hill, 25 pace slalom along the top, 25 pace slalom through the finish...Done!

I double-dare you to do this.... }:)

Rick Brown · Post by **Rick Brown** » Tue Jan 25, 2011 2:27 pm

KJ Christopher wrote:
Sebastian Rios wrote:25 pace slalom out, 25 pace slalom up the hill, 25 pace slalom along the top, 25 pace slalom through the finish...Done!
I double-dare you to do this.... }:)

I vote for it!

Jonathan Lugod · Post by **Jonathan Lugod** » Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:21 pm

KJ Christopher · Post by **KJ Christopher** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:55 pm

Jon - I loved the course. Thought it flowed well and had good visuals. Great use of all the space available without actually using ALL the space and ALL the cones in the trailer.

John Stimson · Post by **John Stimson** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:03 pm

Fun course! Crazy big fast sweeper.

Steve Ekstrand · Post by **Steve Ekstrand** » Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:11 pm

Our whole crew from the kidlets to Snow Beige all were sporting big grins!

Aaron Goldsmith · Post by **Aaron Goldsmith** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 11:40 am

John Stimson wrote:Fun course! Crazy big fast sweeper.

Certainly proves that with the right course you can break the PAX indexing pretty good.

John Stimson · Post by **John Stimson** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 1:20 pm

Aaron Goldsmith wrote:
John Stimson wrote:Fun course! Crazy big fast sweeper.
Certainly proves that with the right course you can break the PAX indexing pretty good.

...says the guy who is trying to autocross a Supra. ;)

Post by **Marshall Grice** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 1:57 pm

as the only car with over 200whp in the top 30, I agree with Aaron.

Aaron Goldsmith · Post by **Aaron Goldsmith** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:02 pm

John Stimson wrote:
Aaron Goldsmith wrote:
John Stimson wrote:Fun course! Crazy big fast sweeper.
Certainly proves that with the right course you can break the PAX indexing pretty good.
...says the guy who is trying to autocross a Supra. ;)

It was a medium fast course where you went 40-55mph with no major points of slowdown (even in the supra). The PAX disadvantage that the low HP speed maintenance cars get is from when they have to slow down before an acceleration zone. The results are proof enough though.

It's certainly happened in my favor plenty of times. The Divisional last year was high speed all sweepers with a few decent slow turn arounds, killing the ST cars. The 08 Pro finale when Max and I co-drove his STi, I felt bad for anyone not in an 06 Short geared STi, it was all 90+ degree corners with tiny straights.

Max Hayter · Post by **Max Hayter** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 2:04 pm

Aaron Goldsmith wrote:The 08 Pro finale when Max and I co-drove his STi, I felt bad for anyone not in an 06 Short geared STi, it was all 90+ degree corners with tiny straights.

And wet

Post by **Tom Berry** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 3:48 pm

Marshall Grice wrote:as the only car with over 200whp in the top 30, I agree with Aaron.

Lets see.... Marshall got beat raw scratch time by a ST civic ( Will ). Think maybe course design matters?

KJ Christopher · Post by **KJ Christopher** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:01 pm

Tom Berry wrote:
Marshall Grice wrote:as the only car with over 200whp in the top 30, I agree with Aaron.
Lets see.... Marshall got beat raw scratch time by a ST civic ( Will ). Think maybe course design matters?

I was actually having too much fun figuring out my car to notice the other times...

Ok - my complaint. Since I was having engine issues the first 200 feet and the last 250 feet, I'd say it was about 450 feet too long.

Greg Peng · Post by **Greg Peng** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:40 pm

Marshall Grice wrote:as the only car with over 200whp in the top 30, I agree with Aaron.

The STR S2000's should be a bit over 200 WHP. I didn't want to break your trend analysis, but obviously Bob didn't get the memo. :mrt:

Will Kalman · Post by **Will Kalman** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:56 pm

Tom Berry wrote:Lets see.... Marshall got beat raw scratch time by a ST civic ( Will ). Think maybe course design matters?

Your point is valid but Marshall beat me scratch - 47.166 to my 47.528 (or 47.194 X run - but no telling what Marshall would have gotten in an X run). I'd say it's nearly impossible to consistently put an ST car in or above the Berry/Simanyi/Larsson/Buetzer bloc so I'd just say it's one of those events that went one way and not the other. The current ST National (class-crushing) Champion was running the same events all last year so that's a pretty good indicator.

(And I'm not just saying that because of my good result this weekend, just figuring...)

Besides, Marshall already stated, above, that horsepower was a disadvantage. Shoulda turned it down - LOL }:)

John Stimson · Post by **John Stimson** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:50 pm

Marshall Grice wrote:as the only car with over 200whp in the top 30, I agree with Aaron.

Make that 230.

Aaron, I'm just kidding you for caring about PAX course effects in a car that seems like it would have a rough time in PAX anyway. I agree, there seems to be a definite pattern to the results. A stratification, even.

But that was a wicked fun sweeper, nonetheless.

Kurt Rahn · Post by **Kurt Rahn** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:31 pm

John Stimson wrote:But that was a wicked fun sweeper, nonetheless.

I don't think I've ever understeered so continuously for that distance. I basically turned the wheel and left it in position, then controlled the understeer with the throttle. It was fun!

Post by **Marshall Grice** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:41 pm

hey don't get me wrong, the course was tons of fun. Just not very balanced. I have to say though it was quite impressive to lay out a course on nearly 1 million square feet and not have 1 straight away.

btw, i did beat Will on scratch. I have some dignity left.

Post by **Marshall Grice** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 6:45 pm

Will Kalman wrote:
Besides, Marshall already stated, above, that horsepower was a disadvantage. Shoulda turned it down - LOL }:)

i know you're just kidding but turning down the power wouldn't fix our sucky lateral grip.

quick! to the SCCAForums to start a thread about combining ST with BSP because clearly they're just as fast as us!

Will Kalman · Post by **Will Kalman** » Mon Feb 14, 2011 7:07 pm

Will Kalman wrote:Besides, Marshall already stated, above, that horsepower was a disadvantage. Shoulda turned it down - LOL }:)

Marshall Grice wrote:quick! to the SCCAForums to start a thread about combining ST with BSP because clearly they're just as fast as us!

I think people score big federal grants to put on studies like these!

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