How to address issue with rules
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- Steve Towers
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How to address issue with rules
What is the procedure to addressing an issue to the national board? Specifically, in my case, control arm bushing material. Because the C5 rubber bushings are not replaceable, it's a $1000 year to replace the control arms if you're running sticky tires. That's not right. I have to believe cars sit because of this cost. It may help to note that this is not just an AX issue, but also affects the road race folks, maybe more than us.
- KJ Christopher
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Re: How to address issue with rules
Point your browser to http://sebscca.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and write a letter stating your concerns and your proposed solution, if you have one.
This will send a letter to the Solo Events Board, which will refer it to the Stock Advisory Committee for consideration and recommendations.
This will send a letter to the Solo Events Board, which will refer it to the Stock Advisory Committee for consideration and recommendations.
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Re: How to address issue with rules
Thanks KJ. I sent a note (#5678) outlining my concerns. I suspect I'm just another voice in this issue, but I have to think that if enough voice are heard, some action might ensue.
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Re: How to address issue with rules
FYI Steve - The link to contact the SEB is on our main website. Right-hand navigation bar, at the bottom.KJ Christopher wrote:Point your browser to http://sebscca.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; and write a letter stating your concerns and your proposed solution, if you have one.
This will send a letter to the Solo Events Board, which will refer it to the Stock Advisory Committee for consideration and recommendations.
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Re: How to address issue with rules
The "normal" procedure for addressing a rule issue:
1. Make the change to your car.
2. Act dumbfounded when someone mentions that the change might not be legal.
3. Post on all your car fan-boy web sites about how unfair the rule is.
4. Read all the sympathetic, whiner posts on those fan-boy web sites.
5. Convince yourself that the rules makers are, in order: 1) ignorant of the greatness of your car, 2) are actual haters of your car, 3) are lying bastards out to punish owners of your car, and 4) that the whole system is corrupt and being paid off by manufacturers of cars other then yours.
6. Inquire about how to get a rule changed.
7. Figure writing a letter or sending an e-mail won't get you anywhere.
8. Remove the change from your car, grumbling and complaining the whole time about how unfair the series is.
9. Discover at your next event that the change your originally made actually slowed the car down.
10. Hold a grudge.
1. Make the change to your car.
2. Act dumbfounded when someone mentions that the change might not be legal.
3. Post on all your car fan-boy web sites about how unfair the rule is.
4. Read all the sympathetic, whiner posts on those fan-boy web sites.
5. Convince yourself that the rules makers are, in order: 1) ignorant of the greatness of your car, 2) are actual haters of your car, 3) are lying bastards out to punish owners of your car, and 4) that the whole system is corrupt and being paid off by manufacturers of cars other then yours.
6. Inquire about how to get a rule changed.
7. Figure writing a letter or sending an e-mail won't get you anywhere.
8. Remove the change from your car, grumbling and complaining the whole time about how unfair the series is.
9. Discover at your next event that the change your originally made actually slowed the car down.
10. Hold a grudge.
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Re: How to address issue with rules
OMG! ROTFLMAOJohn Coffey wrote:The "normal" procedure for addressing a rule issue:
1. Make the change to your car.
2. Act dumbfounded when someone mentions that the change might not be legal.
3. Post on all your car fan-boy web sites about how unfair the rule is.
4. Read all the sympathetic, whiner posts on those fan-boy web sites.
5. Convince yourself that the rules makers are, in order: 1) ignorant of the greatness of your car, 2) are actual haters of your car, 3) are lying bastards out to punish owners of your car, and 4) that the whole system is corrupt and being paid off by manufacturers of cars other then yours.
6. Inquire about how to get a rule changed.
7. Figure writing a letter or sending an e-mail won't get you anywhere.
8. Remove the change from your car, grumbling and complaining the whole time about how unfair the series is.
9. Discover at your next event that the change your originally made actually slowed the car down.
10. Hold a grudge.

Did you make this up? Brilliant! May I have permission to quote this elsewhere, giving you credit, of course?
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Re: How to address issue with rules
hahahaJohn Coffey wrote:The "normal" procedure for addressing a rule issue:
1. Make the change to your car.
2. Act dumbfounded when someone mentions that the change might not be legal.
3. Post on all your car fan-boy web sites about how unfair the rule is.
4. Read all the sympathetic, whiner posts on those fan-boy web sites.
5. Convince yourself that the rules makers are, in order: 1) ignorant of the greatness of your car, 2) are actual haters of your car, 3) are lying bastards out to punish owners of your car, and 4) that the whole system is corrupt and being paid off by manufacturers of cars other then yours.
6. Inquire about how to get a rule changed.
7. Figure writing a letter or sending an e-mail won't get you anywhere.
8. Remove the change from your car, grumbling and complaining the whole time about how unfair the series is.
9. Discover at your next event that the change your originally made actually slowed the car down.
10. Hold a grudge.
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Re: How to address issue with rules
Just made it up on the spur of the moment. Feel free to spread it around. No copyright claimed.
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Re: How to address issue with rules
Things must be slow in the Beta shop. Better gets Rhodes and his mullet mobile back up there.John Coffey wrote:Just made it up on the spur of the moment. Feel free to spread it around. No copyright claimed.
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Re: How to address issue with rules
If you haven't been to John's website and visited the bench racing section, you need to. Many very funny stories including the following classic. Oh yeah, I hear he is an adequate welder, too.Bill Schenker wrote:OMG! ROTFLMAOJohn Coffey wrote:The "normal" procedure for addressing a rule issue:
1. Make the change to your car.
2. Act dumbfounded when someone mentions that the change might not be legal.
3. Post on all your car fan-boy web sites about how unfair the rule is.
4. Read all the sympathetic, whiner posts on those fan-boy web sites.
5. Convince yourself that the rules makers are, in order: 1) ignorant of the greatness of your car, 2) are actual haters of your car, 3) are lying bastards out to punish owners of your car, and 4) that the whole system is corrupt and being paid off by manufacturers of cars other then yours.
6. Inquire about how to get a rule changed.
7. Figure writing a letter or sending an e-mail won't get you anywhere.
8. Remove the change from your car, grumbling and complaining the whole time about how unfair the series is.
9. Discover at your next event that the change your originally made actually slowed the car down.
10. Hold a grudge.![]()
Did you make this up? Brilliant! May I have permission to quote this elsewhere, giving you credit, of course?
WARNING: Don't read the following unless you are somewhere where laughing out load won't embarrass you.
Here's my routine when getting into the car on grid at an autocross:
1. Get in the car.
2. Strap myself in (5 point harness).
3. Realize the keys to the car are in my front pocket.
4. Unstrap.
5. Get out of the car and get the keys out of my pocket.
6. Get in the car.
7. Strap myself in.
8. Put the keys in the ignition.
9. Notice my helmet sitting on the passenger floor.
10. Unstrap.
11. Put the helmet on the passenger seat.
12. Strap myself in.
13. Notice the driver's door is still open.
14. Wonder why the guy next to me on grid thinks this is so funny.
15. Unstrap.
16. Close the driver's door on the lap belt.
17. Try to strap back in.
18. Open the door to free up the lap belt.
19. Strap myself in.
20. Notice the driver's door is still open.
21. Start getting irritated at guy next to me on grid who is cackling like a chicken.
22. Put helmet on head, scraping glasses down nose and onto the floor.
23. Take helmet off.
24. Unstrap.
25. Pickup glasses.
26. Strap myself in.
27. Notice my helmet sitting on the passenger floor.
28. Decide the guy next to me on grid is having a coronary by the way he's twitching and jerking.
29. Unstrap.
30. Put the helmet on my head.
31. Try to strap myself in but I can't see the latch because of the helmet.
32. Take helmet off, carefully putting it on the passenger seat.
33. Strap myself in.
34. Starting to hope the coronary the guy is going through finishes soon.
35. Put helmet on.
36. Notice glasses on passenger side of dash.
37. Unstrap.
38. Put glasses on.
39. Strap myself in.
40. The guy next to me must be dead 'cuz I can't see him sitting up in the car anymore.
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