Classing a Factory Five 818

[Bob Pl]

I thought there was a classing thread but can't find it.

Where might this car go in 2014? First year sold. Kit car. subi engine tube frame 2 seat.

Thanks, move this if it's in the wrong place.

[KJ Christopher]

A mod would be my best guess.

[Bill Schenker]

Not XP?

[Robert Puertas]

I know requests have been made nationally to allow it as a kit car in D mod and E mod.
Is write a note to Doug Gill or whoever at the national office and see if there's been any progress with that.

Meanwhile, if you license it, you could run CST or CSM locally.

Or AM.

[Craig Naylor]

There was a Factory Five Cobra at the St George Match Tour running in XP, but don't know what motor was in it. Sounded V8 - ish.

[KJ Christopher]

Not XP?

the Cobras are specifically classed there. Not the 818.

Doesn't fit D/E mod - what is it based on/look like? Doesn't fit B/C/F mod. It meets the wheelbase/track requirements for A mod. So, a "Special" it is.

[Ed Holley]

Not XP?

Doesn't fit D/E mod - what is it based on/look like?

Looks like this...uses Subaru WRX engine and running gear, engine mounted in rear.

[KJ Christopher]

Ed - EM/DM are production car based classes. Clones are allowed, but must be recognizable as the original car. That's what I meant - what production based car is it recognized as? (none)

[Ed Holley]

Ed - EM/DM are production car based classes. Clones are allowed, but must be recognizable as the original car. That's what I meant - what production based car is it recognized as? (none)

Got it!

[Marshall Grice]

Kit cars that aren't clones can be classed in D/E mod under the "otherwise recognized by the SEB" allowance. Someone just has to submit it for review. Looks like this could potentially be considered in Emod.

[Robert Puertas]

Kit cars that aren't clones can be classed in D/E mod under the "otherwise recognized by the SEB" allowance. Someone just has to submit it for review. Looks like this could potentially be considered in Emod.

Correct. The question has been asked either on the DE/mod forum or SCCA forums. Someone (Cashmore?) responded that they already had requests for it to be classed in D&E Mod, and that they were just waiting to see the first batch of them delivered into customer hands before starting the process of allowing them in as kit cars.

[Marshall Grice]

Correct. The question has been asked either on the DE/mod forum or SCCA forums. Someone (Cashmore?) responded that they already had requests for it to be classed in D&E Mod, and that they were just waiting to see the first batch of them delivered into customer hands before starting the process of allowing them in as kit cars.

true story.

though I don't think there has been any additional data submitted to the MAC for review since 11/2012.

[Craig Naylor]

Clones are allowed, but must be recognizable as the original car.

Looks like Speed Racers Mach 5 to me. Does that qualify as "recognizable"?

[Bill Martin]

Actually, I think B Mod had a clause for non-production sports cars. Typically replica home-builts that weren't close enough to the originals to satisfy SEB.

Any dune buggy, production, or non-production street car meeting all
GCR SRCS rule requirements may alternately run in BM with full BM
Solo Rules aero allowances.

[Richard Jung]

There was a Factory Five Cobra at the St George Match Tour running in XP, but don't know what motor was in it. Sounded V8 - ish.

That Cobra ran at nats in XP. Not sure what kind of replica it is though.

[Ed Holley]

There was a Factory Five Cobra at the St George Match Tour running in XP, but don't know what motor was in it. Sounded V8 - ish.

That Cobra ran at nats in XP. Not sure what kind of replica it is though.

So, today I get my issue of Grass Roots Motorsports magazine. Guess whats on the cover? The Factory Five 818.
Craig: That "Cobra" at St. George is Vernon Jolley's. It has a 427 "V-8" and it IS a Factory Five "Roadster" (not Cobra)for legal reasons. BTW, Factory Five is the only company sued by Carroll Shelby TWICE. Shelby lost both times.

[KJ Christopher]

There was a Factory Five Cobra at the St George Match Tour running in XP, but don't know what motor was in it. Sounded V8 - ish.

That Cobra ran at nats in XP. Not sure what kind of replica it is though.

So, today I get my issue of Grass Roots Motorsports magazine. Guess whats on the cover? The Factory Five 818.
Craig: That "Cobra" at St. George is Vernon Jolley's. It has a 427 "V-8" and it IS a Factory Five "Roadster" (not Cobra)for legal reasons. BTW, Factory Five is the only company sued by Carroll Shelby TWICE. Shelby lost both times.

Bad Vern!

[Anthony Munoz]

Clones are allowed, but must be recognizable as the original car.

Looks like Speed Racers Mach 5 to me. Does that qualify as "recognizable"?

Lotus Elise inspired

[Fred Zust]

Vern's car is a 5.0L punched out to a 347CI F5, for what it is worth. The PAC classified the FF Roadster because it has a long track record, verifiable dimensions, and very specific criteria to keep it from becoming a class killer i.e. no 1.4L ecotec swaps!

[Ed Holley]

Vern's car is a 5.0L punched out to a 347CI F5, for what it is worth. The PAC classified the FF Roadster because it has a long track record, verifiable dimensions, and very specific criteria to keep it from becoming a class killer i.e. no 1.4L ecotec swaps!

Thanks Fred. I stand corrected.