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I thought there was a classing thread but can't find it.

Where might this car go in 2014? First year sold. Kit car. subi engine tube frame 2 seat.

Thanks, move this if it's in the wrong place.

A mod would be my best guess.

Not XP?

I know requests have been made nationally to allow it as a kit car in D mod and E mod.
Is write a note to Doug Gill or whoever at the national office and see if there's been any progress with that.

Meanwhile, if you license it, you could run CST or CSM locally.

Or AM.

There was a Factory Five Cobra at the St George Match Tour running in XP, but don't know what motor was in it. Sounded V8 - ish.

Bill Schenker wrote:Not XP?

the Cobras are specifically classed there. Not the 818.

Doesn't fit D/E mod - what is it based on/look like? Doesn't fit B/C/F mod. It meets the wheelbase/track requirements for A mod. So, a "Special" it is.

KJ Christopher wrote:

Bill Schenker wrote:Not XP?

Doesn't fit D/E mod - what is it based on/look like?

Looks like this...uses Subaru WRX engine and running gear, engine mounted in rear.

Ed - EM/DM are production car based classes. Clones are allowed, but must be recognizable as the original car. That's what I meant - what production based car is it recognized as? (none)

KJ Christopher wrote:Ed - EM/DM are production car based classes. Clones are allowed, but must be recognizable as the original car. That's what I meant - what production based car is it recognized as? (none)

Got it!

Kit cars that aren't clones can be classed in D/E mod under the "otherwise recognized by the SEB" allowance. Someone just has to submit it for review. Looks like this could potentially be considered in Emod.

Marshall Grice wrote:Kit cars that aren't clones can be classed in D/E mod under the "otherwise recognized by the SEB" allowance. Someone just has to submit it for review. Looks like this could potentially be considered in Emod.

Correct. The question has been asked either on the DE/mod forum or SCCA forums. Someone (Cashmore?) responded that they already had requests for it to be classed in D&E Mod, and that they were just waiting to see the first batch of them delivered into customer hands before starting the process of allowing them in as kit cars.

Robert Puertas wrote: Correct. The question has been asked either on the DE/mod forum or SCCA forums. Someone (Cashmore?) responded that they already had requests for it to be classed in D&E Mod, and that they were just waiting to see the first batch of them delivered into customer hands before starting the process of allowing them in as kit cars.

true story.

though I don't think there has been any additional data submitted to the MAC for review since 11/2012.

KJ Christopher wrote:Clones are allowed, but must be recognizable as the original car.

Looks like Speed Racers Mach 5 to me. Does that qualify as "recognizable"?

Actually, I think B Mod had a clause for non-production sports cars. Typically replica home-builts that weren't close enough to the originals to satisfy SEB.

Any dune buggy, production, or non-production street car meeting all
GCR SRCS rule requirements may alternately run in BM with full BM
Solo Rules aero allowances.

Craig Naylor wrote:There was a Factory Five Cobra at the St George Match Tour running in XP, but don't know what motor was in it. Sounded V8 - ish.

That Cobra ran at nats in XP. Not sure what kind of replica it is though.

Richard Jung wrote:

Craig Naylor wrote:There was a Factory Five Cobra at the St George Match Tour running in XP, but don't know what motor was in it. Sounded V8 - ish.

That Cobra ran at nats in XP. Not sure what kind of replica it is though.

So, today I get my issue of Grass Roots Motorsports magazine. Guess whats on the cover? The Factory Five 818.
Craig: That "Cobra" at St. George is Vernon Jolley's. It has a 427 "V-8" and it IS a Factory Five "Roadster" (not Cobra)for legal reasons. BTW, Factory Five is the only company sued by Carroll Shelby TWICE. Shelby lost both times.

Ed Holley wrote:

Richard Jung wrote:

Craig Naylor wrote:There was a Factory Five Cobra at the St George Match Tour running in XP, but don't know what motor was in it. Sounded V8 - ish.

That Cobra ran at nats in XP. Not sure what kind of replica it is though.

So, today I get my issue of Grass Roots Motorsports magazine. Guess whats on the cover? The Factory Five 818.
Craig: That "Cobra" at St. George is Vernon Jolley's. It has a 427 "V-8" and it IS a Factory Five "Roadster" (not Cobra)for legal reasons. BTW, Factory Five is the only company sued by Carroll Shelby TWICE. Shelby lost both times.

Bad Vern!

Craig Naylor wrote:

KJ Christopher wrote:Clones are allowed, but must be recognizable as the original car.

Looks like Speed Racers Mach 5 to me. Does that qualify as "recognizable"?

Lotus Elise inspired

Vern's car is a 5.0L punched out to a 347CI F5, for what it is worth. The PAC classified the FF Roadster because it has a long track record, verifiable dimensions, and very specific criteria to keep it from becoming a class killer i.e. no 1.4L ecotec swaps!

Fred Zust wrote:Vern's car is a 5.0L punched out to a 347CI F5, for what it is worth. The PAC classified the FF Roadster because it has a long track record, verifiable dimensions, and very specific criteria to keep it from becoming a class killer i.e. no 1.4L ecotec swaps!

Thanks Fred. I stand corrected.