how has the economy hit you?

[Reijo Silvennoinen]

There are so many of us now unemployed that we should have an unemployed autocrossers party.

Yeah, the unemployed autocrossers thread might be an idea.

Reijo

[Bob Beamesderfer]

Kaiser is hurting also. I have insider info.

You weren't kidding! It's all over CNN.com's main page, and look where he worked!!

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I just started here, and this news is all over the company

But Kaiser officials say the husband's termination was for cause and not related to layoffs. Regardless, an act of hopelessness such as this isn't surprising given the current economy.

However, no state of desperation can justify such acts,and I would hope that any of us in the Solo community would reach out before things got anywhere close to that bad.

[Reijo Silvennoinen]

Yes, NEVER GIVE UP,.....even after you hit a cone! :gpower:

Reijo

[Steve Ekstrand]

I heard, don't know if its true, that the wife was fired for falsifying her background. The husband was fired for causing constant disruption and threats after the wife was fired.

Big hit to have husband and wife both fired from the same employer, but it sure sounds like 130% the fault of the two murderous idiots.

There is also a rumor being promulgated by black activists that a Kaiser employee told the dad, "why did you come to work today, why didn't you just stay home and blow your brains out." Kaiser denies it was said. But I can imagine how it might have happened. The belligerant asshole is causing a commotion and disruption everyday at work and threatening to kill himself, I'd likely tell the bastard, "please, please...."

[John Prosser]

As I reminded someone the other day.
Sometimes it pays to look at the upside of these horrible news stories.
These guys are completely out of the gene pool. So there is little likelihood of them taking normal people out with them.

As far as unemployment, it is interesting to read how the news covers this issue.
It is almost impossible to find coverage of the many companies that are hiring (although there are many). Also remember, that as bad as things are, over 93% of Americans are employed right now.
Additionally, with approximately 13 million illegal aliens roaming the streets and in the work force. I think the accuracy of unemployment numbers is also suspect by at least the 4% portion that they make up of society.

[Bob Beamesderfer]

The unemployment figure doesn't include those no longer filing for benefits. The reported figure is probably a few points lower than reality. As for 93% of Americans working, that figure only applies to civilian work force [143.3m employed out of a pool of 154.5m]. 11m unemployed; 80m not in the labor force.

[John Prosser]

Well if you want to get technical see below.
I am just saying that it is easy to read and listen to the self admitted left biased media version of the news (IMHO everything after the date in the LA times is opinion) and forget that the vast majority of people legal or illegal are gainfully employed.


without
Series Id: LNS12300000
Seasonal Adjusted
Series title: (Seas) Employment-Population Ratio
Labor force status: Employment-population ratio
Type of data: Percent
Age: 16 years and over


Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
1998 64.0 64.0 64.0 64.1 64.1 64.0 64.0 63.9 64.2 64.1 64.2 64.3
1999 64.4 64.2 64.2 64.2 64.3 64.2 64.2 64.2 64.2 64.3 64.4 64.4
2000 64.6 64.6 64.6 64.7 64.4 64.5 64.2 64.2 64.2 64.2 64.3 64.4
2001 64.4 64.3 64.3 64.0 63.8 63.7 63.7 63.2 63.5 63.2 63.0 62.9
2002 62.7 63.0 62.8 62.7 62.9 62.7 62.7 62.7 63.0 62.7 62.5 62.4
2003 62.5 62.5 62.4 62.4 62.3 62.3 62.1 62.1 62.0 62.1 62.3 62.2
2004 62.3 62.3 62.2 62.3 62.3 62.4 62.5 62.4 62.3 62.3 62.5 62.4
2005 62.4 62.4 62.4 62.7 62.7 62.7 62.8 62.9 62.8 62.8 62.7 62.8
2006 62.9 63.0 63.0 63.0 63.1 63.1 63.0 63.1 63.1 63.3 63.3 63.4
2007 63.3 63.2 63.3 63.0 63.0 63.0 62.9 62.8 62.9 62.7 63.0 62.7
2008 62.9 62.7 62.7 62.7 62.5 62.4 62.3 62.1 61.9 61.7 61.4 61.0

[Bob Beamesderfer]

Well if you want to get technical see below.
I am just saying that it is easy to read and listen to the self admitted left biased media version of the news (IMHO everything after the date in the LA times is opinion) and forget that the vast majority of people legal or illegal are gainfully employed.

And what does the right-biased Fox say? We're not in a recession? 2m jobs weren't lost last year?

I don't care even a little bit what you think about the Times. I haven't worked there in three years and haven't subscribed for nearly that long.

[John Prosser]

I don't care even a little bit what you think about the Times. I haven't worked there in three years and haven't subscribed for nearly that long.
Sorry to hit a nerve. I had no idea you worked at the Times.

[Bob Beamesderfer]

I don't care even a little bit what you think about the Times. I haven't worked there in three years and haven't subscribed for nearly that long.
Sorry to hit a nerve. I had no idea you worked at the Times.

Ah, thought you knew that. No worries; see the PM I sent.

[Steve Ekstrand]

I think the Times has been complete crap starting the day after Bob left them.

[Bob Beamesderfer]

I think the Times has been complete crap starting the day after Bob left them.

The medium to big metro daily is a dead business model. Fewer and fewer retailers spending less and less money.

[Steve Ekstrand]

45-70yo males reading the paper still aren't big mall shoppers...

[Bob Beamesderfer]

45-70yo males reading the paper still aren't big mall shoppers...

That's because the read Sports, which is a section nearly devoid of ads and has been for more than a decade.

Daily News, LB Press-Telegram, Daily Breeze employees have just been told they need to take a week off without pay.

[Steve Ekstrand]

Viagra, Male enhancement, HairClub for Men, Swedish Massage, Spearmint Rhino, Prostate treatment, Botox for men, Dating Services, Exotic car rentals, Big Screen tv's...

Did I miss anything in men's advertising???

Oh yeah.... VoyeurDorm.com

[Bob Beamesderfer]

Viagra, Male enhancement, HairClub for Men, Swedish Massage, Spearmint Rhino, Prostate treatment, Botox for men, Dating Services, Exotic car rentals, Big Screen tv's...

Did I miss anything in men's advertising???

Oh yeah.... VoyeurDorm.com

Some of those were good for a less than quarter page a week. They got all PC back in the 1990s and dropped the ads for strip clubs. Luckily for the club down near the press plant along the 10, composing room and press plant guys made sure they did a good business.

[Kurt Rahn]

They got all PC back in the 1990s and dropped the ads for strip clubs.

Riding a high horse + bad economy = out of business

[Kathy Teulie]

For the jobseekers, the web site indeed.com seems to be good as it looks at many career websites such as Monster etc. It also looks at company websites.

Does anyone else have any good sites that they use for job searching?

Thanks,

Kathy

[Giovanni Jaramillo]

For the jobseekers, the web site indeed.com seems to be good as it looks at many career websites such as Monster etc. It also looks at company websites.

Does anyone else have any good sites that they use for job searching?

Thanks,

Kathy

• CareerBuilder
• HotJobs
• DICE (if you're in the I.T. field)

[Ashley Armstrong]

Oh yeah.... VoyeurDorm.com

Hey, that's a real site!

[Jeff Shyu]

For the jobseekers, the web site indeed.com seems to be good as it looks at many career websites such as Monster etc. It also looks at company websites.

Does anyone else have any good sites that they use for job searching?

Thanks,

Kathy

do you have a profile up on linkedin.com?

i don't know how well it actually works in practice, but i signed up because a few friends bugged me with invites, so i created a profile a while ago.

since creating the profile, and having only 5 contacts, i've gotten 4 e-mails soliciting me to change jobs, never mind that I'm not actually looking for one.

you've gotta be careful who you have for a reference on sites like that though. it's not like Myspace where having 42908763506987 friends is a good thing.

[Steve Ekstrand]

Oh yeah.... VoyeurDorm.com

Hey, that's a real site!

I lectured on it Tuesday in my business law class.


We have fun. }:)

[Chuck Fowler]

Oh yeah.... VoyeurDorm.com

Hey, that's a real site!

I lectured on it Tuesday in my business law class.


We have fun. }:)

investment opportunities?

[Bob Beamesderfer]

They got all PC back in the 1990s and dropped the ads for strip clubs.

Riding a high horse + bad economy = out of business

Economy was better than now; more retail advertisers duking it out for prime space in the A section of the paper. They could afford to be picky. Besides, they were trying to attract more female sports fans to the section. All the people involved in that decision are long gone.

I have a profile on LinkedIn. I know people with hundreds of contacts, but they're PR or sales folks.

[Steve Ekstrand]

My undergrad students are participating in a job faire today in Long Beach with a record number of employers participating. The career counselor swears that she can't fill all the tech and defense jobs she gets listings for. She says still jobs for grads with the right skillsets. Have no idea what those are, or what the salary outlook is like. I'd think both tech and defense would be getting hurt right now.