
It's fun reading peoples opinion about other countries F1 drivers ... balances out the nationalism for the home grown driver.
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OK, but the minutia is available elsewhere: Racecar Engineering, Motor Sport, F1 Magazine.Mako Koiwai wrote:Where is the shot of the McLaren doing the liquid paint test? I've got to go to NASIOC F1 to find that minutia.![]()
It's fun reading peoples opinion about other countries F1 drivers ... balances out the nationalism for the home grown driver.
I know ... actually just amusing to see the ridiculous trash talk ... that can lead to wars. Wait to you see "our" race fans going on about USF1. :gpower:As for the nationalistic bent, it has little to no value whatsoever, so waste your time?
I think its really funny when people talk about "passing" another car at an open track event.Karen said that I should tell you that she passed a Vette coming onto the Roval last friday during her NASA HPDE.
I replayed that a couple times on my DVR. I didn't understand why he was apologizing because it looked like a legitimate race incident, not some irresponsible action caused by foolish blocking.Jeff Shyu wrote: i honestly think that was vettle being a gentleman about it. he knew that he was falling off the pace, and he knew that the overtaking was a matter of time.
i think from that perspective, he might have been apologizing for ending the race for them both
http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/3/9098.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;“We were in second and a strong position, but then, a couple of laps from the end, I had a stupid racing accident with Robert,” explained Vettel. “At the time I turned in I was ahead, but I couldn't keep up speed in the corner and Robert was on a harder tyre, so was much quicker. At the time we collided he was in front, but I had no where to go, I couldn't stop the car, or turn to the right and my tyres were gone.
“Maybe I should have said let him go and bring third back home, but that's life. I tried to defend and, up to the mid-corner, I had reason, but then I had no grip to avoid a collision. I'm sorry to the team and also to Robert, as it didn't just mean the end of my race, but also his.”
Granted Truli was a bonehead to go off behind the Safety Car and should not have repassed, but what could he do when the McLaren team and Lewis made him pass.Bob Beamesderfer wrote:Hamilton DSQ'd from Australia:
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Part of why he got that was he continued to drive the car on 3 wheels.Kristoffer Gjevre wrote:Now, if the FIA could just get together one more time and remove Vettels unfair 10 grid penality for this weekends race...
well, that probably had a part in the penalty, but in terms of actual penalties handed down, it was 10 spots for the race incident, and then 50k for the team for instructing him to keep going.Bob Beamesderfer wrote:Part of why he got that was he continued to drive the car on 3 wheels.Kristoffer Gjevre wrote:Now, if the FIA could just get together one more time and remove Vettels unfair 10 grid penality for this weekends race...
Whoever replaced Ron Dennis on the pit wall needs a talking to.
WTF??????????? Man that was a DUMB move by Mclaren-Mercedes. Now the FIA gains more credibility in the original $50 mil fine 2 seasons ago against them.Bob Beamesderfer wrote:Hamilton DSQ'd from Australia:
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I think the 10 spot is in the rules because it's been handed out before for infractions real and imagined.Jeff Shyu wrote:well, that probably had a part in the penalty, but in terms of actual penalties handed down, it was 10 spots for the race incident, and then 50k for the team for instructing him to keep going.Bob Beamesderfer wrote:Part of why he got that was he continued to drive the car on 3 wheels.Kristoffer Gjevre wrote:Now, if the FIA could just get together one more time and remove Vettels unfair 10 grid penality for this weekends race...
Whoever replaced Ron Dennis on the pit wall needs a talking to.
i still think 10 spot is rather harsh, especially when most people consider it a normal race incident.
I'll never look at my Dyson the same way. Maybe I can get some McLaren emblems for it.Kurt Rahn wrote:BTW, getting off the topic of how Vettel got screwed and how stupid a move Hamilton/McLaren made in lying to the stewards, I just figured out what the new cars look like. It took me a while, because I couldn't picture it from the static pictures I saw before seeing them in action. I just finished watching the TiVO of it last night and it came to me: with the wider/lower front wings and the smaller rear wings, they look like a vacuum cleaner that's been reclined flat to the floor.