March 2010 fastrack
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March 2010 fastrack
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Re: March FT
New King of fastrack! (i'll change it in a bit)
Interesing:
Data Collection: Multiple reasons for implementing: customer requests for common Registration systems, data to make decisions
on programs, automatic driver renewals. Current Registration System: Avectra not designed for Regional use per event. Looking
for registration system to use across board for race, solo, rally, TT. This system should then feed central data base. Idea is
to find a common system and offer to Regions but not make mandatory. Process: Recommendations and directions to be
presented to the BoD.
Interesing:
Data Collection: Multiple reasons for implementing: customer requests for common Registration systems, data to make decisions
on programs, automatic driver renewals. Current Registration System: Avectra not designed for Regional use per event. Looking
for registration system to use across board for race, solo, rally, TT. This system should then feed central data base. Idea is
to find a common system and offer to Regions but not make mandatory. Process: Recommendations and directions to be
presented to the BoD.
Re: March FT
'The SEB and STAC will be continuing to review possible changes in allowances concerning exhaust, firmware, and
emissions compliance requirements.'
'The SEB has directed the STAC to review the tire treadwear rating minimum value requirement'
Really?
emissions compliance requirements.'
'The SEB has directed the STAC to review the tire treadwear rating minimum value requirement'
Really?
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Re: March FT
NOT RECOMMENDED
- Prepared: Add Toyota Yaris, Honda Fit to GP Limited-prep (ref. 09-689) Comment: the PAC will be evaluating potential
impacts of classing newer-technology cars with older ones.
Clearly the Yaris is to much car for the old British iron (rust) to keep up with. Oh well, we will just keep it on the track.

- Prepared: Add Toyota Yaris, Honda Fit to GP Limited-prep (ref. 09-689) Comment: the PAC will be evaluating potential
impacts of classing newer-technology cars with older ones.
Clearly the Yaris is to much car for the old British iron (rust) to keep up with. Oh well, we will just keep it on the track.

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Re: March FT
Maybe someone on the BOD wants a class for really old slow tires ;)Jeff Wong wrote:'The SEB and STAC will be continuing to review possible changes in allowances concerning exhaust, firmware, and
emissions compliance requirements.'
'The SEB has directed the STAC to review the tire treadwear rating minimum value requirement'
Really?

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Re: March FT
Gone unchecked, how much longer do you think it will be before a V710-like tire wears a 140?Jeff Wong wrote:'The SEB and STAC will be continuing to review possible changes in allowances concerning exhaust, firmware, and
emissions compliance requirements.'
'The SEB has directed the STAC to review the tire treadwear rating minimum value requirement'
Really?
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Re: March FT
Yeah.... Those cheater $115 tires from companies offering contingency programs and marketing partnerships are just killing the sport.
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Re: March FT
Shouldn't be too hard considering I know a certain fellow who got 16k miles out of a set of Hoosier Wets on his work truck. Just print 140 on the side of them and call it a day.Jason Isley BS RX8 wrote:
Gone unchecked, how much longer do you think it will be before a V710-like tire wears a 140?

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Re: March 2010 fastrack
Damn it working sucks,Jason Isley BS RX8 wrote:http://scca.com/documents/Fastrack/10/1 ... -march.pdf

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Re: March FT
Jason Isley BS RX8 wrote:Gone unchecked, how much longer do you think it will be before a V710-like tire wears a 140?Jeff Wong wrote:'The SEB and STAC will be continuing to review possible changes in allowances concerning exhaust, firmware, and
emissions compliance requirements.'
'The SEB has directed the STAC to review the tire treadwear rating minimum value requirement'
Really?
So, you raise the number from 140 to 180? Accomplishes nothing if your problem is blatant manipulation of the treadwear number. That's why the ST category has a tire exclusion list. You don't play straight, your tire gets excluded. Simple. If the rules making body lacks the integrity to boot a sponsor that cheats, then that's a whole other problem.
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I had a marketing guy from another tire company years ago tell me his previous generation R tire could make 140 easy.Aaron Goldsmith wrote:Shouldn't be too hard considering I know a certain fellow who got 16k miles out of a set of Hoosier Wets on his work truck. Just print 140 on the side of them and call it a day.Jason Isley BS RX8 wrote:
Gone unchecked, how much longer do you think it will be before a V710-like tire wears a 140?
Sure, ST has an exclusion list, but cherry picking what tires go on/come off, not a job I want.
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I agree it changes nothing. I would hope they are looking at things beyond the TW.Steve Ekstrand wrote: So, you raise the number from 140 to 180? Accomplishes nothing if your problem is blatant manipulation of the treadwear number. That's why the ST category has a tire exclusion list. You don't play straight, your tire gets excluded. Simple. If the rules making body lacks the integrity to boot a sponsor that cheats, then that's a whole other problem.
How do you decide who cheated and who has the real 140? Some of these guys are currently putting 140 on a tire because it markets better - oh everyone will think it is soft and fast if it says 140. There are tires on the market now with higher than 140 that are quicker than the lower stuff. It is just a number on a sidewall, you will need to come up with a better policy than that number to exclude people imho. Or open your pockets to pay for a third party tester.
I think the current crop of tires are great for the class. Do you freeze the class to prevent one company from ruining it for everyone else? How?
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I would never take your crown. You must have left it at Max's place.Tom Denham wrote:Damn it working sucks,Jason Isley BS RX8 wrote:http://scca.com/documents/Fastrack/10/1 ... -march.pdfI'll get my Crown back next month Jason :king:

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dude you're telling me. That's MY crown damn it!Tom Denham wrote: Damn it working sucks,I'll get my Crown back next month Jason :king:
whoa, not that princess thing BTW.
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That's not mine, And why Do you post pics of the sex toy you use , that's way to much info Jason.Jason Isley BS RX8 wrote:I would never take your crown. You must have left it at Max's place.Tom Denham wrote:Damn it working sucks,Jason Isley BS RX8 wrote:http://scca.com/documents/Fastrack/10/1 ... -march.pdfI'll get my Crown back next month Jason :king:
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Marshall Grice wrote:dude you're telling me. That's MY crown damn it!Tom Denham wrote: Damn it working sucks,I'll get my Crown back next month Jason :king:
whoa, not that princess thing BTW.
Yea, it does , I wondered why you have been lagging behind.
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Not yours? I thought you were issued one with your Team Blew membership?Tom Denham wrote:
That's not mine, And why Do you post pics of the sex toy you and Max use , that's way to much info Jason.
You can see where the confusion comes from: http://public.fotki.com/makofoto/solo_i ... stian.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Oh I can understand your confusion Jason, But only the Privileged get those, how they get them i don't know you'll have to Ask Seb.Jason Isley BS RX8 wrote:Not yours? I thought you were issued one with your Team Blew membership?Tom Denham wrote:
That's not mine, And why Do you post pics of the sex toy you and Max use , that's way to much info Jason.
You can see where the confusion comes from: http://public.fotki.com/makofoto/solo_i ... stian.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
They barely tolerate me on Team Blew haven't u noticed a great exodus to other teams since i joined

Ps thanks for the Seb pic i have been looking for that for the Rakin's Budweiser photo thread on NASIOC

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That was because of you? I thought losing your poster boy (Ken Block) was what killed the Subi fanboi party.Tom Denham wrote:
They barely tolerate me on Team Blew haven't u noticed a great exodus to other teams since i joined
Ps thanks for the Seb pic i have been looking for that for the Rakin's Budweiser photo thread on NASIOC

Thank Mako, his pic.

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Block let Drifting subies b/c http://public.fotki.com/makofoto/2009-a ... -ahem.htmlJason Isley BS RX8 wrote:That was because of you? I thought losing your poster boy (Ken Block) was what killed the Subi fanboi party.Tom Denham wrote:
They barely tolerate me on Team Blew haven't u noticed a great exodus to other teams since i joined
Ps thanks for the Seb pic i have been looking for that for the Rakin's Budweiser photo thread on NASIOC![]()
Thank Mako, his pic.

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Re: March 2010 fastrack
Always fun Jousting with you Jason.
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Re: March 2010 fastrack
Can we please just get through one year with a stable ruleset in the ST category? I don't have a problem with the rules, I just wish they would stay the same for a while.
Just S#!t or get off the pot...
Just S#!t or get off the pot...
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Well I guess that's the big plus for prep and mod, rules are pretty much the same, year after year.Sebastian Rios wrote:Can we please just get through one year with a stable ruleset in the ST category? I don't have a problem with the rules, I just wish they would stay the same for a while.
Just S#!t or get off the pot...
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From my view it's just been taking a 10-year-long S#!t.Sebastian Rios wrote:Can we please just get through one year with a stable ruleset in the ST category? I don't have a problem with the rules, I just wish they would stay the same for a while.
Just S#!t or get off the pot...
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Re: March 2010 fastrack
"That's what you say"--let us see what new or old car are they adding or thinking about adding to or taking out of GP!!!!Aaron Goldsmith wrote:Well I guess that's the big plus for prep and mod, rules are pretty much the same, year after year.Sebastian Rios wrote:Can we please just get through one year with a stable ruleset in the ST category? I don't have a problem with the rules, I just wish they would stay the same for a while.
Just S#!t or get off the pot...
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