Drive as slow as him and you might be amazed at what you can see. }:)Michael Palero wrote:Jeff Wong wrote: Not good for SebHe has a good eye for those downed/displaced cones!
+1 He does! he must have bought an autocross alignment for his eyes from Dr. Jason Flores
FasTrack News (Solo) - November 2010
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The changes to 7.4 and 7.9 (re-runs) don't really seem to change much about how CSCC (or just about any other club) does things. Mostly they just seem to emphasize the need to not be too slow when you slowly complete the course.
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This seems to be inconsistent.Change 7.9.2 to read as follows:
“7.9.2 Displaced or Downed Pylons on Course
A competitor encountering a downed or displaced pylon on course has the option of continuing the run or stopping
as soon as possible, and pointing out the downed or displaced pylon to a course worker. If the competitor stops,
he or she must proceed off course and will then be granted a rerun. However, if the competitor completes the run,
the time will stand.”
In conjunction with the above, change 7.4 to read as follows:
“7.4 RERUNS
Reruns will be granted only for timing failure, object on the course, or red flag, and will not be given because
of mechanical or other failure of the competitor’s car. A minimum of five minutes must have elapsed before a
competitor may take a rerun.
Pylon penalties are not carried over to the rerun. A DNF on a run for which a rerun would have been given shall
stand and no reruns shall be given.
In the case in which a competitor is red flagged or stops for a downed or displaced cone on the course, the
competitor may continue slowly through the remainder of the course, or may exit the course directly, and will
be granted a rerun if appropriate. Failure to exit the remainder of the course at an appropriately reduced speed
(generally 70-80% of competition speed) will result in a DNF for that run. It is important to clear the course in a
timely manner in order to avoid impeding the progress of the car following, and to ensure the event remains on
schedule.”
7.9.2 says "must proceed off course" if you stop for a "downed or displaced pylon",
but 7.4 says "may continue slowly through the remainder of the course, or may exit the course directly" if red flagged or stops for a "downed or displaced cone".
or maybe the key here is that there is one rule for a downed or displaced pylon and another for a cone? }:)
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BTW, not much better in the 2010 rules:
7.9.2 Pylons Down on Course
A competitor encountering a downed or displaced pylon on course has
the option of continuing the run or stopping as soon as possible, and
pointing out the downed or displaced pylon to a course worker. If the
competitor stops, he or she must proceed directly and slowly off course
and will then be granted a rerun. However, if the competitor completes
the run, the time will stand. In the case in which a competitor is red
flagged or stops for a downed or displaced cone on the course, the
competitor may continue slowly through the remainder of the course,
or may exit the course directly, and will be granted a rerun if appropriate.
Failure to exit the remainder of the course at an appropriate speed
(generally 25-30 mph) will result in a DNF for that run. It is important
to clear the course in a timely manner to ensure the event remains on
schedule.
Reruns for downed cones after the timing fi nish line will only be given at
the discretion of the Chief Steward.
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evidently drafted by different subcommittees.
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The intent is to drive on the defined course at a reduced speed. I can understand the interpretations though. Stay tuned...
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Yeah, that was one of the proposals listed as "tabled".Giovanni Jaramillo wrote:The things that jumped out where things like BMW M3 (E46, E36) moving from BSP to CSP (along with the Mazda RX-8).
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Under ST rules
With the existing 140 wear rating rule, and an exclusion list possible... whats the point of adding a minimum tread depth as manufactured, when shaving is not disallowed?C. Tires must have a minimum UTQG tread wear rating of 140 and a minimum molded tread depth of greater than
7/32”, as manufactured.
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Jeff and Jason can bite me.
The conflicting verbiage is weird for sure.
And this nice fat fasttrack is great for off season bench racing and all, but when are we going to see the magical mystery ST re-org?
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The conflicting verbiage is weird for sure.
And this nice fat fasttrack is great for off season bench racing and all, but when are we going to see the magical mystery ST re-org?
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Palero also has good eyes for boxes with no cones in them too bad most dident have any cones to start with!!! =)Michael Palero wrote:Jeff Wong wrote: Not good for SebHe has a good eye for those downed/displaced cones!
+1 He does! he must have bought an autocross alignment for his eyes from Dr. Jason Flores
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I remember that incident! He was soooo sure ... ![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
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Rick Brown wrote:Is this a section we have to follow? Basically means you have to red flag all cars on course as a slow moving car along the outside of the course would almost always be considered a safety hazard. People can often point out down/out cones without impacting following cars.Jeff Wong wrote:“7.9.2 Displaced or Downed Pylons on Course
A competitor encountering a downed or displaced pylon on course has the option of continuing the run or stopping
as soon as possible, and pointing out the downed or displaced pylon to a course worker. If the competitor stops,
he or she must proceed off course and will then be granted a rerun. However, if the competitor completes the run,
the time will stand.”
Not good for SebHe has a good eye for those downed/displaced cones!
It's if the competitor completes the run without stopping. The wording is confusing, the "However" is saying what happens if the previous sentence isn't followed.
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What is N/A?Aaron Goldsmith wrote:"Move from ASP to BSP:
MR2 turbo & N/A (’91-’95)
Note: remove N/A from CSP"
Mr. Clements to the NA with a 3sgte courtesy phone.
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Normally AspiratedArthur Grant wrote:What is N/A?
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Giovanni Jaramillo wrote:Normally AspiratedArthur Grant wrote:What is N/A?
Thanks